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Pricelist FAQ

(Frequently Asked Questions)

What is Pricelist?

How does Pricelist know what to charge my customers for my work?

How difficult is it to configure Pricelist to my operation?

Where do I put my markups?

How should I be pricing my screen printing or embroidery?

I'd like to know more about the theory behind this kind of pricing. . .

How do I get Pricelist?

Can I get a demonstration first?

What if I buy Pricelist for embroidery today, and I start screen printing later (or vise-versa) can I upgrade?

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What is Pricelist?

Pricelist is a computer software for screen printers and embroiderers to price the goods that they sell. Pricelist is also probably one of the most invaluable financial management tools available to these two industries. If you have noticed that it is difficult to ascertain what to charge for these services, you are not alone. (If you haven't noticed this, exit now, as there is no hope for you.) Most screen printers and embroiderers spend hours each week struggling with what to charge for each job. Some merely pull the figures out of the air, which they know is foolish, but they haven't found a truly useable means for pricing.

Pricelist was created to end these problems. First, Pricelist helps show you what to charge for your services. Pricelist allows you to enter the amount of money you want to make this year, then Pricelist creates quotations and price tables that will achieve your profit goal. Second, Pricelist allows you to make professional written quotations for your customers in minutes - not hours. You save hours each week and appear more professional in your customers eye, while gaining piece of mind that every quote you write guides you to your profit goal.

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How does Pricelist know what to charge my customers for my work?

Pricelist knows what to charge your customers because Pricelist is configured to your shop. You give Pricelist an insight as to what you do in your shop to make money. You also tell Pricelist how much money you want to make this year. Using this information, Pricelist can consistently price goods for your shop using industry accepted accounting practices that guide you to your profit goal through every job you perform each year.

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How difficult is it to configure Pricelist to my Company?

There are easier ways of pricing your product, but there is nothing available to you that is as easy and viable as Pricelist. Any pricing / financial management system demands some of your time if the system is to work. You could just borrow a competitors price table to price your product, and undercut your competitor by a nickel per item. That is easy, but it is about as viable as a dartboard. Pricelist is - without a doubt - the fastest, easiest way to create viable pricing.

Have you ever wondered: "What if my competitor isn't making much money?" If you are pricing your product by undercutting him, you are making even less. And how do you know that he has any idea how to manage his money any better than you do? What if he created his prices by undercutting somebody else?

The practice of allowing your competitor to manage your business is all to prevalent in our industry. It is good to be competitive with your rivals, but unless you know what it takes financially to make a profit at the prices you offer, you probably won't make a profit at the prices you maintain. That is where Pricelist comes in. When you configure Pricelist, you give the software financial information in the easiest possible terms. You enter information based on your last balance sheet, press or embroidery machine logs (we include log sheets with the kit), and an estimate as to what you would like to make this year. The whole process rarely takes more than a couple hours the first time around, and gets easier any time you decide to change things. (Like next year.)

As soon as you finish configuring Pricelist, you are ready to create prices and custom quotes that work toward your profit goal. The prices that Pricelist gives you are not pulled out of the air, but based on industry accepted accounting principles that connect prices charged to your companies' expenses and profit goal.

Better still, if your prices appear too high or too low for your market, you can go into Pricelist and re-configure with new expense and profit estimates until you create budget figures that can realistically give you the prices you need to compete and the profit you need to earn.

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Where do I put my markups?

You don't. Pricelist is considerably more sophisticated than that.

Pricelist does not use percentage markups or any other retailing techniques. Why? Well, suffice it to say that you are not a retailer when you are engaged in this business. Even if you are a retailer engaged in doing monograms on the side, this portion of your business is NOT retail. From an accounting view, everything you ever learned about retailing goes straight out the window when you become a manufacturer, and you are a manufacturer. (Technically, you are a finisher - which is a special subgroup of manufacturers)

If you have tried to create pricing for your business using retail markups, you have no doubt been frustrated trying to evaluate percentages to quantities and numbers of colors or stitches per design. Don't feel bad. Almost every printer or embroiderer trys that first. Why? Because retailing practice is so prevailent in our society, that manufacturing processes are barely taught. How important is it to use manufacturing accounting price practices instead of retail? Ask yourself this question:

Does Chrysler Corporation price their automobiles by marking up the steel?

If so, go buy a new Viper. It doesn't have much more steel than a Neon. Pricelist uses the industry accepted method of "hourly rate theory" to price your goods. It is a viable method of charging for the value that you add to an existing product. And while it is difficult to get used to the idea that you can make money without markups, it is easier if you think of the process as marking up your time (which is relevant to what you manufacture) instead of the raw materials (which is not relevant.)

For complete information on how manufacturing companies price their product (specifically our industry) go to: "I'd like to know more about the theory behind this kind of pricing. . ." in the Pricelist FAQ.

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How should I be pricing my screen printing or embroidery?

Experts in the industry agree that pricing has to reflect the amount of work that goes into each and every job. Doing this is tricky, however. While "Standard Cost Accounting" is the method of choice for most manufacturers, it is an unworkable system for screen printers and embroiderers. Most experts agree that "Hourly Rate Theory" is the most valid method of pricing in these two industries.

Unfortunately, hourly rate theory does not lend itself to guaging the bottom line. Many printers and embroiderers who use hourly rate theory still guess as to what hourly rate will be right for them. Just a few years ago, Scott Ritter offered the industry a theory that coupled Hourly Rate theory with Standard Cost Accounting. People who use this married theory gain the ability to consistently and meaningfully price product from the hourly theory - while being able to forcast income and expenses using Standard Cost Accounting. Almost every consultant and expert in the industry currently endorses this theory or concurs that the theory is valid.

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I'd like to know more about the theory behind this kind of pricing. . .

The following document is called "Theory.txt" This document comes with the Pricelist demonstration program for Windows, should you decide to download it. It is also available from our FTP site.

Pricing Theory

There are easily as many theories on pricing as there are ways to skin a cat. One popular, and meritorious theory states only "Charge as much as the market will bear." Let's not forget that it behooves you to get as much money for your services as you can. I know of no person who left this trade because he or she felt his or her income was too high.

Unfortunately, instead of trying to charge better rates for our efforts by showing a product differentiation, or an additional value in our services, many printers just try to offer the lowest price. The old adage about "If Charlie jumped off a bridge would you jump too?" comes to mind every time I hear a printer say: "I can't charge more than the guy down the block!"

I feel it's important to note that almost no business has ever survived, let alone thrived with a "lowest price" perspective on marketing. Also, efficiency is almost never gained without tremendous gains in production numbers. So unless you think you can capture an amount of sales equal to approximately five to ten times as much as your competitor is currently selling, the odds are you can't recognize a greater efficiency over him.

This program utilizes two theories of pricing derived by Scott M. Ritter. The first is referred to as "the marriage of cost accounting and hourly income," the second is called "Past History Price Theory." Hourly-rate pricing has long been accepted by most trade experts as the proper way to price garment screen printing, but how to set your hourly rate has always been the Achilles heel of the system. Both of these theories deal with setting that hourly rate for a shop.

Most people's experience with business pricing stems from the retailing industry. In most retailing situations, a percentage markup is added to the selling price of an item. For example, an average retail store will receive an item, and use a 50% markup to arrive at selling price. Let's say that a retail store purchases an item costing $2.00 from a wholesaler. The shopkeeper will divide the cost ($2.00) by the reciprocal of his markup (50%) to arrive at a selling price of $4.00. ($2.00 / (1-.50) = $4.00) In this way, the shopkeeper knows that 50% of the selling price is the cost of the goods. (Incidentally, when goods are marked up by the common figure of 50%, the practice is called "Keystone")

However, the use of a percentage markup is virtually unheard of in any manufacturing situation. Why? Proper business planning. A wise entrepreneur will attempt to control as many of the variables in his business as possible. Using a percentage of something that fluctuates, like costs of goods, tears gaping holes in the fabric of such plans. For a retailer, percentages of costs are semi-manageable. By estimating annual sales and costs of doing business, a retailer can estimate his/her profit.

For a manufacturer, this plan is unacceptable. A manufacturer has control over many more aspects of his financial plans than a retailer does. Primarily, a manufacturer has a greater degree of control over costs of raw materials, and direct control of production flow. Let's look at the case of a toy manufacturer who makes rubber ducks. This manufacturer could observe the assembly line of his/her factory, and determine that the average flow is 500 ducks per hour.

Knowing this, if the manufacturer feels comfortable that he can sell 20,000 ducks to his customers weekly, then he can set up his factory to work exactly 40 hours each week, thereby supplying 20,000 ducks weekly (500 per hour x 40 hours.) By using a simple equation, this manufacturer can plan for his profit.

By adding all the costs of running the factory for one week (labor, electric, etc.) to the costs of raw materials for producing 20,000 ducks, the manufacturer can determine the total cost of one weeks operation, and divide that figure by 20,000 ducks to determine costs per duck.

Next, the owner of the factory can determine how much money he wants to make this year. Let's say that he wishes to make $52,000 this year, and divide that $52,000 by the 52 weeks in one year. The owner discovers that he/she wants to make $1,000 every week.

Now a week's production creates 20,000 ducks. That means that if we divide $1,000 by 20,000 ducks, we discover that we want to make five cents per duck produced. By adding profit (5 cents) to the cost of producing each duck, we arrive at the basic selling price. Everything is planned, and as little as possible is left to chance. You could say that if pricing was a house, this house has a solid foundation. If this same manufacturer decided to price his goods by using a markup on raw materials, his "house" would obviously have no foundation at all.

This process is called standard cost accounting, and it is one of the most accepted methods of pricing for manufacturers. However, screen printers are not like most manufacturers. (Actually, the category we fall into would be "finishers") If our screen shops were compared to the toy factory above, we would start by making 4,000 rubber ducks on Monday. Tuesday we would make 3,000 toy soldiers. Wednesday would begin making 200 wagons, and finish by manufacturing 4,500 dolls. The fact is, our product and rate of production change continually. Usually, no two days are alike.

Here is where the marriage of cost accounting and hourly rate theory saves the day. This theory looks for some constant we can substitute for units produced per week. We find that we can't rely on the number of units produced per day or the cost of raw materials to stay the same. We can, however, rely on the cost per hour of running the factory and the number of hours worked per day to remain relatively stable.

Our formula changes slightly. Now, by adding up all the costs of running the factory for one week (labor, electric, etc.) and dividing it by the number of hours the factory runs per week, we can establish a cost per hour of running the factory. Cost of raw materials becomes external to the equation - that is, we add them at the time we price each item. We must then account for profit on an hourly basis, instead of a per item basis. For instance, if our costs of operation are $40 per hour, and we wish to make a profit of $20 per hour, our hourly rate becomes $60 per hour.

To relate our hourly rate to the products we produce, we must establish time parameters for the different products we manufacture. If we discover that we produce 100 wagons per hour, 800 dolls per hour, and 400 toy soldiers per hour, and we know the raw material costs of each, we can easily price each item.

Past History

The marriage of cost accounting and hourly theory works great. . . in theory. But in a true-to-life setting like our own screen shop, determining costs per hour can be most difficult. Our shops experience tremendous seasonal fluctuations in production. These fluctuations, combined with other factors make our costs per hour fluctuate wildly. If our overhead remains the same on a day to day basis, but our presses (Our "assembly line") operate for six hours one day, but only three the next, obviously our cost per hour are doubled on the latter day because there were only half as many working hours.

Past History theory is a device we use to smooth out the peaks and valleys in our production, and create a meaningful average. With Past History theory, we examine a long period of time - a full year - and draw averages from it. If you will, imagine the edge of a razor blade - perfectly straight, very smooth. The edge is so fine, you can split a human hair. Yet, examine that same edge under a powerful microscope, and you see peaks and valleys in that sharpened edge - it's not very smooth at all!

Looking at a full year of production is much like looking at the razor blade with the naked eye - nice and smooth. Looking at a weeks production is like looking in the microscope - rough and jagged. If we photographed both views, you would easily identify the razor blade from the naked-eye-view. You might never figure out what you are looking at if all you ever saw was the microscope image. Both are images of the same object, but it's easier to work with "the big picture."

So what we want to do is to determine what our financial obligations will be for a year instead of a smaller period. How can we easily and accurately do that? By looking at the past! If you wish to determine how much money you will spend on advertising this year, the logical first step you should take is to see what you spent last year. With last year's figure in mind, you could logically determine if that figure should be larger or smaller this year, and approximately by how much.

But Past history theory asks us to see much further than that. Past History theory states that everything we need to know about the financial/production status of your business can be derived by looking at the relationship between your past financial statements and your past press time (Hopefully recorded in your press logs.)

What can we tell from the relationship between costs and production hours? For starters, efficiency of your shop. If your pressmen produce at a slower rate than the identically sized shop down the street, your expense per hour will probably be higher. Why? because you paid for more hours of labor to produce the same goods. What about that large job that was done wrong last year, and the client refused to pay? - It showed up in last years costs as labor for which you didn't receive a profit!

Realistically, you can determine everything you need to know about a shop, for pricing purposes, by examining the cost breakdowns and press records. You don't need to know the cost of ink per shirt - it's included in the cost of ink you bought! You don't need to know how many shirts you printed - that number is reflected by the costs of producing the shirts. (In fact, because no two jobs are alike, the number of shirts produced per year only serves to add confusion.)

To some extent, Past History theory states that "What you did last year, you will do this year." For the most part, this is true. But managerial intervention is the key to fine-tuning the past history pricing technique. If you attempt to estimate advertising costs by relying on previous costs, your mind may state something like this:

"Last year I spent $1,500 on advertising. I remember that I spent $500 of that amount on one campaign alone - a full page ad in a state wide magazine. It sure didn't pay off. Those small newspaper ads proved worthwhile though. I think this year I'll try some radio too. . ."

After some reflection, you'll arrive at a budget figure for your advertising this year. You'll have eliminated mistakes that you can correct, and adjust for trying new things. You'll continue doing what works ("What you did last year, you'll do this year") and account for trying new remedies for what didn't work.

Putting it together

Using the marriage of cost accounting to hourly theory and Past History theory together, we create a model for the time/financial flow of our business. Simplified, the equation looks like this:

Annual Costs + Annual Profit

Total Annual press Hours = Hourly Rate

In this equation, there is only one variable we have not discussed in detail - Press time. The need for accuracy in estimating press time in this equation is critical, and very often, neglected. Yet, this figure is usually the easiest to estimate correctly. All you need to do is keep a press log.

A press log gives us most of the information we use in estimating, yet most companies who yearn for pricing information have failed to perform the simple task of keeping a press log. A press log can provide detailed information about production rates of all the various types of jobs we do on an on-going basis. It can also tell us the total number of hours our presses ran last year. Given the total number of hours our presses ran last year, we can set about estimating press hours for the coming year in the same manner as we estimated expenses.

For example, let's say that an established printer knows that his business has grown, needing 7% more press time each year over the past five years. Unless this printer has reason to believe that this year will be different (the managerial intervention factor) he can plan on needing 7% more press time this year.

Let's pretend that this same printer only started keeping press logs recently. Obviously he would not know by what factor his press times have risen each year. While this situation does hamper our efforts to estimate press times for the coming year, it does not present an insurmountable problem. Let's say that this printer has only kept press logs for one year. What other factors might help us predict a tress-usage trend?

This printer may have noticed an increase of 7% in his gross sales (after accounting for inflation) over the past several years. While it's not as precise a method by which to estimate, gross sales are a fairly good indicator of press time usage. The printer can guess he'll need 7% more press time this year to accommodate the 7% growth.

But let us suppose that the printer has just now begun to keep a press log, and is anxious to start accurately pricing his product. Well, any quick-start campaign at pricing is bound to show flaws, but rough estimates are usually better than no estimates. A first step for this printer would be to start a press log immediately. After an absolute minimum of one week's work, the printer could estimate how this documented week would compare to an average week for this season, and from there, how the current season compares to the annual average press load. By looking at monthly financial comparisons from previous years, a person could create some meaningful comparisons by examining monthly gross sales and expenses.

Let's not forget how crude an estimate a one-week press record would result in. This printer would definitely want to review his estimates after a couple more weeks, then again in a month or two, and continue periodic reviewing from there. Many factors that affect the relationship between gross sales and press time, such as seasonal fluctuations in the relative costs of goods, (for example: a printer may sell primarily T-shirts in summer, and mostly jackets in winter. The press may actually operate 75% fewer hours per $1000 of gross sales due to the dramatically higher cost of goods during jacket season.) Odds are, a printer using a one-week estimate will re-define his annual press-time many times, showing dramatic changes in his printing prices, before the first year is over.

Summary

Using Past History theory to accommodate relatively accurate forecasting, and using a marriage of cost accounting and Hourly rate theory, we can build a foundation for our pricing that we can use to plan for our business' profit. Unfortunately, a foundation is only as good as the mason who laid the bricks - similarly, our pricing foundation can only be as good as the commitment and patience you put into properly arriving at each estimate.

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How do I get Pricelist?

To Order, Click Here, or Call Scott M. Ritter Software at:

(218) 326-0890

Prices Are:

Screen Print Version 2 - IBM or Mac $249.95

Embroidery Version 2 - IBM $249.95

Combined (S.P. & Emb.) Version - IBM $349.95

Your copy will be shipped within 24 hours via U.P.S. with C.O.D. terms (except Fridays - we ship same day or Monday). To avoid C.O.D. fees, we cheerfully accept Visa and Mastercard.

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Can I Get a Demonstration First?

You bet. Scott M. Ritter Software currently has a 30-day working evaluation version for Windows 95/98! You can download a copy of this fully-functional 30-day duration software by clicking here.

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What if I buy Pricelist for embroidery today, and I start screen printing later (or vise-versa) can I upgrade?

Yes, and without penalty. If you buy the screen print version or embroidery version now, and later decide to upgrade to a combined version, you pay only the difference in price between the versions. (Currently $100)

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